I would like to point out that you can get #2 buck in 20 ga, but only in 3 magnums, if that is of interest to you. I am sure many dead deer would argue that yes buckshot is lethal at 50 yards. It will work, but you better keep shots close. Most stock barrels were less than .5 per yard. A 12 gauge shotgun shell holds 8-9 pellets of 00 shot, 8 pellets of 000 shot. I think it'd be easier to evaluate the groupings if you only fire one round at each target, but use 2 or 3 different targets (your hold could have been slightly off with one of your rounds and that may have accounted for the 4 pellets off the target). I tried laying the buckshot in pairs in 3 stacks and the patterns were . My friend dropped a buck at 80 yards two years ago the deer never moved. Shotshell Length: 2-3/4in. The load that is a sure killer at 40 yards may be a crippler at 50. These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. The 00 buckshot (plated, pattern-controlled) load maintains a hit probability of 50+% out to 52 yards, which is the limiting factor in maximum effective range because the individual pellets are sufficiently massive and have a high enough velocity to retain terminal effectiveness to a distance of 104 yards. JOHN: So for me, I guess the big takeaway was that inside of 25, the shotgun is devastating. Not many years ago, 50 yards was considered a long . JOHN: Yeah, and the whole point of what did we want to know was just, flat out, not is it appropriate to shoot this distance not anything other than what does it do?. Buckshot Patter (25 yards) Good/Bad/Thoughts. JOHN: Yeah. Buckshot pellets are significantly larger than birdshot. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". That the 1 inch of spread for every yard rule has pretty much been busted. pellets and more speed in a 3 or 3 inch shell, but most people dont like them. Moving to a IMP MOD choke, it patterns around 10"-15" inches. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'guntradition_com-leader-2','ezslot_6',119,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-leader-2-0');if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'guntradition_com-leader-2','ezslot_7',119,'0','1'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-leader-2-0_1');.leader-2-multi-119{border:none!important;display:block!important;float:none!important;line-height:0;margin-bottom:7px!important;margin-left:auto!important;margin-right:auto!important;margin-top:7px!important;max-width:100%!important;min-height:250px;padding:0;text-align:center!important}Buckshot hunters come in two primary categories. Your family is worth it. Your previous content has been restored. For that matter, I tried some when I was patterning the Remington loading at 25 yards and it only put 5 or 6 on the same type of target as I recall. you have more of gradual taper on the inside of the choke, also known as the "skirt", because the taper looks like a skirt. Most buckshot loads vary in velocity between 1,100 and 1,600 fps. For the purposes of this report, the definition of buckshot is broken out into two categories: deformed and spherical. I have heard some good things about a neat load from the Dixie Slug Company. Table of TSS shot 60 yard penetration test data Some folks call them hermaphrodites while others swear that they're antlered does. By Depending on the particular load and the shotgun's choke, at somewhere between 20 and 30 yards, a few of the pellets will have spread wider than the chest of a silhouette target. If you dont have a clear shot, dont take it. The target was a large piece of paper at a range of 30 yards. If your duties or circumstances lead you to carry a shotgun for self-defense when outdoors, we encourage you to make use of shotshells utilizing a pattern-controlled shotcup and copper-plated shot pellets. This site is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. Dispersion of buckshot pattern with distance. What happens to atoms during chemical reaction? I noted exactly what you did. The final shotgun was a Remington 870. I agree,that's the gun I use and it's a killer. You've only seen one page. 50 feet-- penetration: same lack of penetration. This is a little thing we like to call Stuff John and Chris Wanna Know. So John, tell us, what do we want to know today? With the Fiocchi Low Recoil round (8 pellet) - the group opens up to 18-20" and always seems to have at least one flier. It was necessary to determine the velocity of the buckshot spheres as they traveled downrange to know the maximum range at which the pellet would be able to meet the 12.0 minimum penetration depth in ballistic gelatin. Federal Premium LE132 00 low recoil buckshot, 9-pellet 3. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'guntradition_com-box-4','ezslot_1',110,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-box-4-0');if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'guntradition_com-box-4','ezslot_2',110,'0','1'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-box-4-0_1');.box-4-multi-110{border:none!important;display:block!important;float:none!important;line-height:0;margin-bottom:7px!important;margin-left:auto!important;margin-right:auto!important;margin-top:7px!important;max-width:100%!important;min-height:250px;padding:0;text-align:center!important}Where you shoot depends on your buckshot, how tight the pattern is, how much penetration it will get, and how far the deer is. If the Flite Control is not giving you the performance that you desire, try loosening up the amount of choke that you are using. All of these shotguns are excellent in my opinion, and Ive pointed both brands at more than a few criminals in my law enforcement career. Thats how animals run off wounded, never to be found. The pellets are clustered together more than conventional wad buckshot when they reach the choke, and they are compressed against each other leading to increased deformation. Coming from a slugs only state I have shot plenty of deer with shotguns but none with buckshot. Its consistently the best grouping buckshot out there. It never seemed to pattern well. This criteria is only for larger buckshot of 1, 0, 00, or 000, though. Buckshot pellets must be copper-plated or made of high antimony lead and feature an effective wadding system in order to be considered to fall into the performance category of spherical buckshot. Remington Ammunition Issues a 12-Gauge Premier AccuTip Ammo Recall, FIRST LOOK: Glock Just Very Quietly Unveiled the New Glock 47 Pistol, Police Sidearms: The Handguns of Americas 10 Largest Departments, FIRST LOOK: Rounds Downrange With the new Mossberg Patriot LR Tactical, 5 Common Myths on How to Survive a Gunfight, Understanding Stand Your Ground Laws and Castle Doctrine, Long-Distance Shooting: 5 Must-Know Tips For Spotters & Shooters, IMPACT Experience Events Redefine Your Long-Range Shooting Limits, Sniper Skills: Taking Your Shooting Precision to the Next Level, Self-Defense Myths that Could Get you Killed, 4 Home Defense Myths You Need to Stop Repeating. Recoil has to be considered for a defensive gun. Very possible. The patterns at 20 yards. For self-defense indoors or in environments that physically cannot exceed 10 yards distance, we recommend #4 plated buckshot at 1250 ft/sec or higher muzzle velocity. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Forget about 20 gauge with anything larger than #3 buckshot. To many pellets can ruin the effectiveness of the ones you hit with. however, I do not recommend firing a load of buckshot at a deers head. The same concept of bird shot applies here, you can hit with more pellets that will do nothing, or not enough. Although he misses the bad guy with his shot, he hits a sign that falls down and whacks the guy. He has earned black belts in four martial arts and is a certified Krav Maga instructor. Back before the days of screw in chokes we deer hunted brair patches and cedar thickets with with hounds and shotguns. My main concern would be matches where buckshot targets have close-in no-shoots. He also said these missing pellets drive LE range officers nuts when they have to account for every projectile fired in training. The main one is simple: Triple-aught is the most-effective size of buckshot. Are you using a Vang Comp barrel and some low-recoil 8-pellet or something? JOHN: Would you still be hitting stuff at that distance? In other words . Slugs are good to go up to about 100 yards: both because they . One of the best features of the shotgun is its versatility. My last deer was shot with 2w Winchester 00 buckshot. With a 20-gauge, generally, No.2 buckshot is what you find. Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. The standard sizes of buckshot are #0, #00, #000, #1 and #4 buckshot. However, you may visit "Cookie Settings" to provide a controlled consent. Kinda irritating because that limits me to just that load, though. Times have changed since then.3. I only had one 3" shell, with a full choke at 20 yards I had one hit in an 8" circle. With flush chokes, the taper is more pronounced creating less accuracy. *I have found the *rougher* the choke, the tighter the pattern, all things being equal. Two boards totaling . Any choke will easily launch #4 buck out to 50 yards. Is the slight gain worth the loss of that extra, potentially lethal pellet? Witness Protection 870: The 12.5-Inch Short-Barreled US Marshals Shotgun. A basic understanding of buckshot can help you hunt better. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". I tried all of the chokes in the Buck-Kicker line from Kick's, and was refunded my money when my $35 Primos Dead Deer choke stomped them. Details in the video below or keep scrolling for the full transcript. At PBR it's a devastating hit. The gauge, however, does matter as a matter of how many projectiles are fired. The pattern is youre accountable for every single round in that pattern onto a man-sized target, easily. For instance, loads of 12-gauge 00 buck are commonly available in 8 to 18 pellets depending on the lengths from 2 3/4 to 3 1/2. All shots where taken at 40 yards and with 2 3/4 # 3 buckshot all 20 pellet loads The pictures as follows Winchester brand (unplated shot) Remington brand ( unplated shot) and Federal (copper plated). I didn't buy a cylinder choke, but I might well try it. With fed. Shopping with us is absolutely safe - you never have to worry about credit card safety when shopping here Share your latest AR build or photos from the range with #RangeDayFriday for a chance to win a new firearm! The more pellets, the greater chance of a killing shot. It does not store any personal data. The information provided here does not represent the views of Cheaper Than Dirt! Perhapse I can improve. It's a little bullet with a decent velocity, but will it actually fill the freezer? Phil Bourjaily Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. This particular shotgun has been customized by 870 maestro Hans Vang of Vang Comp Systems. While my HD gun is loaded with #4 buckshot (my longest shot is no more than 15 yards) .. #1 buckshot has more sectional density than the #4 buckshot so the penetration will be better at distance for any given velocity. Posted December 6, 2008. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. Most of us used No. And either [load is still meeting] the FBI standards. Now let's look at the 60 yard penetration test. I have owned several and none would keep the pellets on a 12x20" target past about 20 yards or so. GDubya Registered Joined Mar 25, 2010 1,630 Posts These cookies ensure basic functionalities and security features of the website, anonymously. What would best kill a deer, a one-ounce load of number 8 birdshot, or a one-ounce slug? Want them to all be in about 6-8" use federal flight controled buck. In fact, most of the pattern doesnt cover anything at all. Otherwise, one ends up all over the map. Your email address will not be published. Im glad that you all like the video. As such, the maximum effective range of this load was determined to be 51 yards. Ive heard heated arguments for all three. MOLON LABE. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=86292. I fired 3 patterns with this, and all 3 are nearly cookie cutter. Buckshot patterns can be devastating at close range (20-25 yds.) Your Modified choke will pattern larger . We considered 50 yards the maximum range but we didn't worry about losing a crippled deer because the dogs would trail it up. JOHN: So, still potentially lethal absolutely. I try to keep with the same length shell, 2 3/4 inch, as a common factor. I thought I posted this before, but here's some shotgun patterns out of a Remington 870 with an 18.5" barrel. 12-Gauge Gunfight: How to Win With Your Favorite Tactical Shotgun. An example of this analysis can be found below for the #1 buckshot deformed sphere: On closer inspection of the zoomed-in portion of Figure 8a and b, we see that a #1 buckshot deformed sphere can be expected to penetrate to 12.0 of gelatin at a velocity of 993 ft/sec. Only a soft recovery (shooting gelatin, water or cotton) will tell you which type of buckshot your shotshell produces. With spherical shotgun pellets, the only way to increase sectional density is to increase the pellet size. In fact, at 25 yards, the 14-inch-barreled 590A1 produced a pattern 1-inch smaller than the 500. Except at under 30 yards, it doesnt have the power to bust through the hide and penetrate both lungs. JOHN: Right. But TSS has also given some hunters a false sense of how far they can kill a longbeard. The wad itself is very thick (like a platic cup) and we have found that the the pellets are remaining nestled in the wad for a longer distance while traveling down the barrel. The Boar Blaster, from Trulock Chokes, did a good job of patterning cheap buckshot loads. The "rule" for a pattern is 1 inch per yard for a full choke. Big pellets dont always follow the same rules that apply to smaller shot. Ok, here are my current patterns: all based on Federal 00 buckshot and a mossberg 500 12ga. you will cover the head and about 5 inches of the neck. just fewer pellets. With my Rem 11/87 with a Hastings Turkey choke, I print 15" patterns . The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. Even at 30 feet, the maximum spread with this load was 2.5 inches. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. Within reasonable distance, the pattern will be tight enough to put several pellets in the pine and the deer will drop right there, you will have some shot in the lungs to finish things off too.Aiming at the center of the neck gives a good spread, but may damage the skull. As such, we recommend #4 buckshot for self-defense only if using plated and heavily-buffered shotshells and the anticipated range of engagement does not exceed 10 yards. Now, I only tried that one round, but still. They're fun, handy, and can be very practical. The Winchester and the Federal preformed the best. There are the penetration guys and the full pattern guys. The idea you need to have a short barrel is foolish, you gain a slight amount of maneuverability for a great sacrifice in accuracy and effectiveness. You can, and its nice to know that the spread will not be too large to recklessly endanger a neighborhood. However, nothing has outperformed Remington 000 2.75" from an IC flush-mount thus-far. Package Quantity: 100. 12 and 20 gauge hollow point slugs Slug pros: Lethal at longer distances: Buckshot is ideal for shots inside 25 yards, 50 at a stretch with appropriate shot+choke+shooter combo. Because they have a poor sectional density, they shed their energy fast, both in the air and in the target.For close shots, aim for the shoulder, straight up the leg to hit the heart and lungs. Remingtons Magnum 00-buck load has 12 pelletsabout 1 18 ounces of shotlaunched at almost 1,300 fps. Can 00 buckshot kill a human? What's the Maximum Effective Range of Buckshot? if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,600],'guntradition_com-large-leaderboard-2','ezslot_9',112,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-large-leaderboard-2-0');The individual pellets of No.4 buckshot often dont go deep enough to reach anything good. Generally, this is 30-yard buckshot. This shotgun is a version of what the NYPD highway officers carry. I did so and would put all 8 on the target about 50% of the time with maybe 1 flier 25% of the time and 2 fliers the other 25%. The stuff is a poor performer past about 20-25 yards. I stopped using the stuff when I found cheaper shells did much better. ATK was kind enough to supply 12-gauge fodder for the test. At 30 it shot about a three inch group. 8 pellet Flite Control will run patterns the size of your fist at 25 yards. Each shotshell type was shot (10) times at (10) individual targets. The rule for shotgun patterning has been that you usually get about 1 inch of spread for every yard from the target. One most common type of buckshot is #00 buck. Wait, will or can? The procedure I fired one round of each load from each of the three different choke tubes. Plenty of shells shoot farther now. Maybe not with the entire load, but enough to Hmmm, how many rounds are we going to fire to get enough pellets into this block?. Theres so much misinformation, it doesnt seem to want to go away. JOHN: But not passing the FBI standards. Readily-found shotgun shells tend to fall into the performance category of deformed buckshot due to a lack of plating or an effective wadding system. If you were centering a human torso on the group, only about 3 pellets would even hit the torso. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. But, it was a dandy. Pretty lame putting only 66% or so on-target when the remington consistantly does 80-100%. Finally, I tried the 3 inch Magnum load. The #00 still was. This is our issue shotgun and issue buckshot. As always, some barrels are happier with certain loads. All comments are held for moderation and will appear after approval. I tried a Carlson's Full, and it was very poor performing with 00 buck. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. We reserve the right to edit as appropriate, delete profane, harassing, abusive and spam comments or posts, and block repeat offenders. This shotgun includes a SureFire forearm, a BlackHawk Knoxx Stock and a three-point sling. If all my shots were going to be in thick brush, I would be tempted to shoot 1 buck. CHRIS: Kinda like a meteorite John, thats right. Here it might be better to use a slug. These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. Of course, all of that is moot if one is using a rifled slug or even the venerable pumpkin ball. Dont do that its dangerous and unethical to shoot something you dont clearly see. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Up until then, they produced great patterns. I wonder if the 8-pellet reduced recoil stuff will cycle my M4S90. So it was interesting to see the difference between the #1 and the #00. Nothing spectacular, but it worked for m first 6 deer. What would the range be for 00 buckshot with a Rem 870 mod choke? Hornady Zombie @ 21ft. I expected this kind of pattern at 25 or 35 yards. Buckshot will kill you at 100 yards. Posted September 15, 2013 in Ammunition by Steve Johnson with 19 CommentsTags: shotgun. This is, presumably, due to the fact that as you increase pellet diameter, you also increase the EFFECTIVE %age of antimony with regard to performance (hard for me to word). Most buckshot gives up its energy well within 100 yards or less. The name's Jordan, but friends call me Jordy. It made a 33 inch pattern. This is simply figuring for penetration. Learn its limitations so that you can operate more effectively in an actual shooting. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'guntradition_com-large-mobile-banner-2','ezslot_4',116,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-large-mobile-banner-2-0');But its not by itself. But it's only 50 feet! The big advantage of using a slug is that it has a much longer effective range than buckshot. The single buckshot pellets were acquired from shotshells shot from a SAAMI 12 gauge test barrel (24 length, cylinder bore) into a cotton soft-catch box (Figure 1) and were then handloaded and shot into gelatin from low-pressure handgun cartridges (Figures 2, 3, and 4) at a wide range of velocities. In a Mossberg 590A1 CYL, I have seen consistent patterns of less than 6". I have tried it. CHRIS: What does it do?, yeah. Especially when you back off to 40 yards or so. Even with reduced-recoil 00 buckshot, the 1 inch per yard pattern seems improbable. CHRIS: It will if it hits you in the right place, Id say. The brain of a deer is about the size of one of those little half-sized oranges. Remington has 9 pellets at 1,325 fps. This test consists of firing a .177 caliber steel sphere (BB) into the gelatin block at 590 feet per second (fps) +/- 15 fps. (Again this pattern with with the 18.5" Benelli with the IC choke) Attached File It seems that in the oldest question of weight vs. number, 00 buckshot has been the drawn line in the sand. Functional cookies help to perform certain functionalities like sharing the content of the website on social media platforms, collect feedbacks, and other third-party features. Ready for a laugh? Therefore, bigger pellets will penetrate deeper. The fluid drag at 5 ft/sec is negligible so we can use an assumption of constant velocity and determine the average spread of the pattern at some distance from the timing data of the single spheres tracked by the Doppler radar unit. For home defense #00 buckshot seems the best choice. mine will pattern 6" @ 30 yds, after that use a slug. On a 45 yard shot at a poster-board, 3 shots out of 3, all 8 hit the 22x28" posterboard, which leads me to think that the fliers on these 25 yard targets weren't off by far. The buffered, extra-hard buckshot is contained within a two-piece wad with full-length cuts made to the shotcup. Absolutely, and Id expect to hit it, at least with enough to probably put it down. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". If you need proof, Brass Fetcher tested buckshot against ballistic gelatin at 50 yards and then managed to chronograph it at 50 yards (no small feat). Sometimes, what seems like good advice at the time is proven later to be not so great. Check out this post which is one of the most popular of all time. Tactical Life Gun Magazine: Gun news, gun reviews and gun magazines for gun enthusiasts, military and law enforcement, You use of this website constitutes and manifests your acceptance of our. Its not very big. FULL is even worse. I selected the distances of 12, 30, 50, 60 and 75 feet for the test, as these run the gamut from close range to the maximum distance a standard 12-gauge smoothbore might perform. If you go to a 12 gauge, you can increase the effective range somewhat. But the range to shoot patterns is the range you shoot your birds. Those nine .33-caliber pellets can have serious impact on a human target, and that effectiveness only improves from 75 feet and in. You cannot paste images directly. If you are shooting No.3 or No.4 buckshot, you should keep it under 30 yards. Neither pattern was exceptionally tight. The spine and neck are great targets. This particular shotgun has been outfitted with a SureFire forearm with an integral weapon light as well as an ATI adjustable stock and pistol grip combo. Brass Fetcher Ballistic Testing recently conducted an eye-opening ballistic gelatin test of buckshot at 50 yards distance. and 9/10 are inside a 20" circle. A very small, tight pattern with 000 or 00 buckshot is quite effective, but the smaller the pattern, the greater the possibility of a complete miss. Buckshot size and speed doesnt matter as much as buckshot quality. Its because the slug is heavy enough and powerful enough to penetrate deep and to break heavy bones. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'guntradition_com-leader-1','ezslot_10',113,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-leader-1-0');Buckshot is a close-range option. Believe it or not, there is a fairly good way to measure the killing power of a bullet. Thats our control, thats what we do with our handgun ammo. The two different theories are quite different, and to be honest, both take deer every year. 50 feet- pattern: better. I am sure many dead deer would argue that yes buckshot is lethal at 50 yards. Figure 50% hit at 25 yards, but now the pellets have slowed WAY down to around 900 fps or about 110 lb-ft of energy PER PELLET! And you will have a horrible time tracking it without much of any blood trail to follow. Ballistic gelatin test results of Buckshot at 50 yards distance.Tested ammunition was:12 Gauge Federal #4 Buckshot 27 pellet (F127 4B) 2 3/4\"12 Gauge Federal Tactical 00 Buckshot 9 pellet (LE132 00) 2 3/4\"12 Gauge Hevi-Shot 00 Buckshot Dead Coyote 9 pellet (42209) 2 3/4\"12 Gauge Hornady Critical Defense 00 Buckshot 8 pellet (86240) 2 3/4\"12 Gauge Remington Express 000 Buckshot 8 pellet (12B000) 2 3/4\"Shot from a Mossberg 500 12 gauge shotgun with 20\" barrel length and full choke.Very special thanks to RW for facilitating this test. Now add a little buffer, wad, or both to further protect the buckshot from deforming, and you're well on your way of having a legitimate 50+ yard, tight patterning buckshot load. If I remember correctly. Something no one has mentioned with multiple hits, there is a factor of squaring the damage per hit. Of course, do you want to use a shotgun beyond 25 yards? For comparison, my Benelli M2 (Light mod choke) with Remington Low Recoil rounds (8 pellet) averages around 12-14" at 25 yards and rarely has a flier. Premium, buffered loads of hard pellets are worth the price you pay for them for shooting at longer ranges (40 yards). When hunting land animals with spreading shot, the only choke in existence for the task is full choke. But, I have always been intrigued by buck shot and have a shot a bunch at paper to see how it acts. Ask for advice on chokes for buckshot and youll get every answer from IC to Turkey Full. 90 percent of my deer were killed with buckshot. Though it has less constriction than modified choke it delivers 50 percent of the pellets in a 30 inch at 40 yards. Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. What load? This is typical "cheapo" buckshot that does not use plated shot or buffering material to limit shot deformation. Shotguns are typically considered close-range firearms, especially when loaded with buckshot. The penetration guys believe that larger buckshot is more lethal because it penetrates better. Beyond about 30 to 50 yards, the spread from most shotguns becomes too unpredictable to reliably guarantee that any of the pellets will hit the intended target. Its also fairly inexpensive. Buckshot traveling fast enough to make incapacitating hit at this range (12.0 or deeper penetration in nominal 10% ballistic gelatin). [Federals advertised velocity is 1100 for the #1 versus 1145 for the #00. 3) 3" Federal Vital Shok #4 buckshot - 41 pellets sight: Truglow red dot sight mounted on the vent rib of the barrel. Check out the video above. Jordan Buck is an outdoor writer, a man of faith, and a family man. 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